Chelsea Clinton is an avid runner – the former First Daughter completed her first marathon last year – and has quite a playlist to get her through those miles of training. “I don’t hear it on headphones because I’m so scared that a person or a bike or a car could run me over,” she says in EW’s digital cover story with Courageous, the new Apple TV+ documentary series that she co-hosts with her mother Hillary Clinton. “But if I’m on a dedicated running track, then I’m definitely listening to hip-hop while I run: I listen to a lot of Jay-Z. I listen to a lot of old-school Beyoncé. really, maybe that’s dating me, but I really like the mid-range stuff. from the 90s to the late 2000s.”
The one person she doesn’t have on her playlist? Kanye West. “I had to let Kanye go because it’s just, I can’t. The way he treated Kim Kardashian, the way he talked about women is inconceivable to me. That was one of my favorite runs. music. And I did. removed from my music library.”
Clinton has more affection for West’s ex-wife Kim Kardashian, who was a guest on Courageous, which shows brave and courageous women making positive changes in the world. “I have long admired Kim’s commitment to criminal justice reform,” she says. “I knew she had gone to law school. I knew she was doggedly committed to these issues and to the individual efforts of incarcerated people to shorten their sentences or fully commute their sentences. But to hear her talk about what that’s like. Such a significant part of her identity, of how she thinks about her role as a celebrity, of how she thinks about where her celebrity can help and where it can be harmful… but how important that is to her definition of who she is.”
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Other guests on the 8-part series include Wanda Sykes, Amber Ruffin and Megan Thee Stallion, who also has a place of honor on Clinton’s playlist. “I really like Megan Thee Stallion, and I also love Cardi B. And I also love when Cardi B sings in other songs.” It makes sense that Clinton would have an exercise playlist: the author and public health advocate proves to be quite an athlete Courageoushaving surfing, abseiling and other sports for the show.
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Says Hillary: “I always knew that Chelsea was brave and incredibly hardworking and a good sport, but I was really impressed that she was willing to step up and do whatever she was asked, [whether] it was to put on a fireman’s uniform and try to handle that giant hose or go surfing or abseiling down a waterfall. She was ready for it, which was good for me, because I couldn’t imagine being able to do any of that. And frankly, I don’t think our guests thought I could either. But she was great. She was there. She was in the moment. She really took on whatever the challenge was. So I love that about her.”
Courageous debuts on Apple TV+ on September 9.